Matam is Totally Haram by Shia’s Own Books


Evidence no:1

Let us first read the Fiqh book of Shia’s i-e Nahjul Balagha

Nahjul Balagha Part 3 page 745 Irshad 322

“Hazrat Ali(R.A) aik jaga sy guzery to kuch orten Maqtooleen per Giryah ker rahy then itny men os qabeely ky sardar ap ky khidmat men hazer hoye to Hazrat Ali R.A os per naraz hoye or kaha ky kiya tomhara bas in orton per nahy chalta ky inhen giryah kerny sy maana ker sako”

Short and Rough Translation
Hazrat Ali (rd) going from one place when he saw some women doing (Matam)(moaning crying hurting ownself), at certain moment the leader of that tribe came in. Hazrat Ali(rd) was very upset with him and asked him that you even do not control these women (ie, to stop them from doing this).

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Evidence no:2

Farogh-e-Kafi is like Sahih Muslim of the Shias let us read what it say about it.

Farogh-e-kafi vol.1 Kitab-ul-Janaiz Ch:78 hadees:7 page:328

” Hazrat Muhammed(s.a.w) ky farzand Tahir ka jab inteqal hoa to App(s.a.w) ny bibi Khadeja ko Rony sy manna kiya or farmayah kiya tum Is per Razi nahy ky osy Janat ky darwazy per khara pao”

Translation:
When Hazrat Muhammad (sall allhu alehiwasalam)’s son ‘Tahir’ died, You stopped Hazrat Khadija from moaning and crying (for the child) and said “dont you want to see him standing on the door of Paradise?“.

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Some More Scans with Same prohibition for beating own self or crying and torchure like Shias do
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Another Evidence

blogentry-8936-0-64181800-1311295157Yet Another from the same book

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More Evidence:

Book name Hayat-ul-Quloob vol.2 page-994 Ch:62 

Translation in short: Prophet alehisalam said about four things will be there in my ummah and one among them is moaning and crying which is prohibited. 

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More Evidence:

khisaal-as-sadooq , pg:109 , bab:4 , sheikh-as-sadooq

“Noha geeri ki majlis men shirkat walon ko Allah mon ke bal jahanum men phenke ga”.
“Allah will throw those people to hellfire who will join Majlis’es”.

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More Evidence: again

Hayat-ul-quloob , jild:2 , bab:63 , pg:1008 

“Huzoor(s.a.w) ne Hazrat Fatima (r.a) se farmaya ke mere jane ke bad tum na mujh per gham kerna , na apne chehre ko zakhmi kerna , na apne balon ko pareshaan kerna , na noha kerna aur na noha kerne walon ko bulana.”

Short Translation: Prophet alehisalam said to Fatima (rd) that after my demise do not cry and do not harm your face, …. (ie do not moan neither hurt yourself nor cry).”

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Now Presenting Some More and utmost Authentic Scans and Rulings of Shia’s own Ayatullah

On the Prohibition of beating and doing torture (matam)

post-1668-1220946519SHORT POINT TRANSLATION:
He Prohibited the torchure and making ourselves blooded and guys he is not ordinary mulla of Shias but he is Ayatullah Khamin’ee

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 Another Reference:

When Imam Hussain (Rd) was on the battle of Karbala, before martyr he gave his will to Syada Zeenat (rd) by saying “O my beloved sister! i swear you. if i am martyred, d’nt do Matam, neither hurt your face (slapping) nor snatch your face with nails”. (i-e Dont do Matam)
Ref : Book Al-Irshad Vol 2
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20 thoughts on “Matam is Totally Haram by Shia’s Own Books”

  1. pehla jawab:

    shaheed be shak quran ki ro se zinda ha magar shaheed ke ahkam bhi murde he ki tarhan hote hain maslan us ki tadfeen karna ,us ki werasat ki takseem karna, wagera wagera aap ke mutabiq shaheed ka matam is liye nahi ho sakta ke wo zinda ha ye aap ki MANTAQ(LOGIC) ha shaheed ke matam ke hawale se to pher isi mantaq ke hisab se mere khuch sawaloon ka jawab dejiye.

    agar shaheed zinda ha to us ki tadfeen kyun hoti ha jabke tadfeen to murde ki hoti ha.

    shaheed ki bivi ko wedwa kyun kaha jata ha?

    use edat kyun guzarni parti ha?

    dosri shadi ki ijazat kyun hoti ha jabke us ka khawand to zinda ha?

    shaheed ka matam is liye nahi kar sakte ke wo zinda ha to pher jo aksar hamare hain agar kisi ka koi rishte dar shaheed ho jaye to wo rota kyun ha kya wo ro kar ghalt karta ha ??? agar wo ro kar ghalt nahi karta to matam kiss tarhan ghalt howa, or agar ghalt karta ha or is ka us ko gunah milta ha to kiya un logooon ke sath zulm nahi ha ke unhe rone bhi nahi diya ja raha jabke wo rona chahte hain?

    jis tarhan ke maine kaha ke shaheed beshak zinda hota ha par is ke ehkam murdoon jaise he hote hain jiss tarhan shaheed ki tadfeen wagera ho sakti ha jabke tadfeen murda ki hoti ha to matam kyun nahi?

    dosra jawab.

    aap ko pehla jawab maine mantaqi andaaz main diya ab dosra jawab aap ki motabar tareen kutub se shaheed or zinda ka matam pesh e khidmat ha,.

    hazrat bilal ka matam:

    hazrat bilal ne jab rasool saww ko marz ki halat main dekha to matam karte howe bahar aye.

    madarij al nabowa jild 2 page 544

    ye leen janab hazrat bilal ne nabi ki zindagi main matam kiya.

    BIBI FATIMA KA MATAM:

    ohad ke ehwal main shah abdul haq muhadis dehalvi likhte hain.

    oor jab fatima zehra sa ne ye bat sunni(nabi kareem saww ki shahadat ki)to sar petateen hoween ghar se bahar(ohad ki janib)doreen

    madarij al nabowa jild 2 pagr 163(kanpoor)

    BIBI FATIMA SA ne nabi ki shahadat pe matam kiya.

    rasool saww ka gham karna imam hussain as par

    RASOOL SAWW OR HAZRAT ALI AS

    hazrat ali as ne farmaya ke main ik roz hazoor saww ki khidmay main hazir howa to aap ki ankhoon se anso jari the maine kaha ya nabi saww kiya aap saww ko kisi ne naraz kiya ? aap saww ki ankhoon se anso kyun jari hain?to aap saww ne farmaya ke jabraeel as abhi mere pass se uthe hain bus unho ne mujh se ye biyan kiya ha ke hussain as furat par qatal kiye jaye ga pher jabraeel as ne kaha ke agar aap chahate hain to main aap saww ko wahan ki khak sunghaoon? maine kaha” han”pas jabraeel as ne hath barhaya or ik muthi khak mujhe di pas meri ankheen aisi to na theen ke na roteen.

    muntakhab kunzul imal bar hasheya musanad ahmed ibne hambal vol 5 page 112 misar

    ye rawayat kai tareekoon se warid hoi ha khuch rawayat main hazrat ali as ka rona bhi ata ha.

    ye dekheen RASOOL SAWW iam hussain as abhi shaheed bhi nahe howe or aap as ki shahadat pe ro rahe hain jo shahadat se pehle ro raha ha kiya wo bad main na rota?? apne aap ko sunni kehne waloo imam hussain as ka gham manana RASOOL SAWW ki sunat ha ab tum agar apne aap ko suni kehte ho to is sunat par amal kyun nahi karte or kehte ho ke zinda ka kaisa gham?

    ibne hajar iskilani kehte hain ke imam hussain as ke gham main aap as ki zoja ume robab ik saal tak roteen raheen

    (asaba)

    hazrat usman shaheed howe the ya aap use shahadat nahi mante agar mante ho to ye dekheen hazrat usman ki zujaoon ka matam.

    hazrat umer shaheed howe the?????

    hazrat umer ki wafat pe jinaat ne kale kapre pehne noha parha or matam kiya.

    Riyadh al Nadhira Volume 1 page 198,

    hazrat umer bhi aap ne nazdeek shaheed hain na? un ka matam howa wo bhi jinat ne kiya.

    yakeenan aap loog nabi ko zinda mante ho to ye leen NABI KAREEM SAWW ke wisal par matam.

    hazrat ayesha ka matam.

    kiya hazrat ayesha bhi ye manteen theen ke nabi mar kar matti main mil gaye hain????????? agar zinda manteen theen to matam kyun kiya????

    hazrat zaid bin sabit ka marsiya:

    kiya hazrat zaid bin sabit bhi rasool saww ko mara howa samajhte the??

    tesra jawab :

    agar shaheed ka gham karna jaiz nahi ha to aap ke ulma IMAM HUSSAIN AS ka gham kyun manate hain darasal ye to aap logoon ki zid or ahle bait as se bugz ha jo is kam se mana karte ho maine khud kai sunni ulma ko imam hussain as ka gham manate suna ha or baqaida majalis hoteen hain or saboot ke liye ye khuch pages bhi laga raha hoon

    shah abdul haq mohadsi dehavi ke han ki majalis:

    shah rafiuddin mohadis dehalvi kehte hain ke moraam main mailis karnasahi ha

    1. ji nahi apke jawabat ghalt hain

      1 baat matam or rone peetne ki hai, kiya usko ahlu bait ne apna amal banaya yaa sahaba ne?

      2nd sayaduna bilal rad ka jo ap ne hawala diya hai us main tarjuma ap ne ghalt or apni marzi ka kiya hai. Us main Afsurdagi ka maani hai naa keh Matam ka or iska aik or aqali jawab ye bhi hai keh Matam se murad Seena kobi nahi hota balke Taaziyat hota hai.

      Agli baat ap ne ki Syaduna Zaid bin Thabit ki, To apki pehli Batameezi to yeh hai keh Ap Rasool Allah alehisalam ko batameezi se (Mara Hua) maazAllah keh kar apne he shia dharam ki toheen kar rahe ho. Unke liy eWisal ka lafz use hota hai mara hua intihai darje ki Jahalat hai. isliye ap touba karo. Hazoor alehisalatowasalam ZINDA HAIN OR APNI QBAR MAIN mushahida farma rahe hain. Ye hum AHLU SUNNAT KA IMAN HAI.

      Jahan tak Syaduna Umar (rd) ka sawal hai to Kya aap Qom -e Jinnat ki Perwi karo gay? Lekin jinnat ki perwi se to Quran ne mana kiya hai . Jubke apke pas to baqol Shia riwayat Sahih quran hai he nahi wo Imam Mahdi (as) le kar aayinge? To kis barte par ap daway kar rahe ho in rivayat k?

      Shaheed ka gham karna alag cheez hai or MATAM KHANJAR CHURI SE KHUD KO LAHU LUHAAN KARNA YAHUDIYON KA AMAL HAI naa keh Musalmano ka. or Iski Mumaniyat main APke SHia kitabon ke he hawalay Isi Blog ke Scans Section main dekh lain. ya Search box main Shia Matam likh kar type karen apko mil jaiga link.

      Matam karna Ahlu Bait se Izhar e Muhabbat hai? Kisi aik ka naam bata do jis ne Matam kiya ho? Apki shiyon ki apni kitaben isko ghalat qarar de rahe hain. Acha hai keh ap Ibne Saba ki perwi ki bajai or Ibne taymmiya ki andhi taqleed ki bajai Rasul Allah or unke Ashab k raste par chalo

      Shah rafiudeen humare bazurg nahi hai pehli baat, wo deoband k bazurg hain or un se iska jawab len. Dosri baat unho ne Majlis ka kaha ho ga lekin majlis main Matamzani Mard or ORat ki makhlooth mahafil or Sahaba par Galam galoch ka hargiz naih kaha hoga i am sure.

      1. Janab aap ek bar phr se padh lijiye hawale
        1-Janabe fatima zehra ka kya??
        Huzoor (s.a.w.w)ka imam husain (a.s) pe rone ka kya???
        Or ye quran ki baat bilkul jhooti or na qabile maqbool h,
        Aap se kisne keh diya ki hamara quran alag h or ham quran me tehreef ke qaa’el h
        Hamara ye bilkul pukhta aqeeda h ki quran waise hi h jaisa pehle tha or qayamat tak waise hi rhega
        Ye khali hawalat ko rad krne ka bahana h
        2-Ye bat mai bhi manta hu ki qama zani or zanjeer zani ghalat h
        Har qaum me kch log aise hote h
        (Jaise aap ke mutabiq taziya dari haram h lkn kch hazrat nikalte h taziye)
        3-Or jaha taj rhi ibne saba or taymiya ki bat
        Ye ilzam h
        Or mai aap se aap ki bat kehna chahunga ki taymiya wahabiyo ke aalim h un ka hmse koi rabta nhi to is bare me unse bat kare na ki hamse
        Or ibne saba wali mai sabit kr skta hu ki ye ek manghadat fard h jiska koi wajood nhi h
        Lkn mjhe image attach krne ka option nhi mil rha h…..😓😓

      2. Janab aap ek bar phr se padh lijiye hawale
        1-Janabe fatima zehra ka kya??
        Huzoor (s.a.w.w)ka imam husain (a.s) pe rone ka kya???
        Or ye quran ki baat bilkul jhooti or na qabile maqbool h,
        Aap se kisne keh diya ki hamara quran alag h or ham quran me tehreef ke qaa’el h
        Hamara ye bilkul pukhta aqeeda h ki quran waise hi h jaisa pehle tha or qayamat tak waise hi rhega
        Ye khali hawalat ko rad krne ka bahana h
        2-Ye bat mai bhi manta hu ki qama zani or zanjeer zani ghalat h
        Har qaum me kch log aise hote h
        (Jaise aap ke mutabiq taziya dari haram h lkn kch hazrat nikalte h taziye)
        3-Or jaha taj rhi ibne saba or taymiya ki bat
        Ye ilzam h
        Or mai aap se aap ki bat kehna chahunga ki taymiya wahabiyo ke aalim h un ka hmse koi rabta nhi to is bare me unse bat kare na ki hamse
        Or ibne saba wali mai sabit kr skta hu ki ye ek manghadat fard h jiska koi wajood nhi h
        Lkn mjhe image attach krne ka option nhi mil rha h…..😓😓

  2. Tum log kia shia sunni krte ho Hussain se pyar krne k liye to musalman bhi hona zaroori naiii
    Jab yazeed Imam Hussain k sar k sath khel rha tha to aik sahaba Akaram ne kaha k tmhy pta hai is sar ki Hazrat Muhammad (S.A.W) is sar ko chuma krte the to yazeed ne aik dam se lakli phak di or undhar he Bibi Zainab aagai or tilawat ki k
    (Tm kia humen sikhaoge k Qu’ran kia hai Qu’ran to humhre ghr mai aaya tha)
    To yazeed aik dam se bangga or apni aurton ki bola k noha pharna shuru kro noha ki shurwat yahan se hui
    Or haan Muhammad Pak (S.A.W) Imam hussain Hazrat Ali (R.A) ne kahin kaha hai kia k matam kro arey shia to bolte hai k Shaheed zinda hai phr zinda ka kia matam krna matam yazeed ki nishani hai aghr kahin likha hai k Muhammad pak (S.A.W) ne hazrat Ali ne ya Imam hussain ne kaha hai k matam kro wo mjhy btao k knsa kitab hai
    Jab Imam Hussain ki katal krha tha Yazeed to Hussain (AS) ne ki kaha tha pta hai
    (Tm mjhy mar do par deakhna sari zaindagi khud ko khud maroge mere liye so shia bhaiyon thora Qu’ran meaning k sath phar lo)
    Thanks bhaiyon aghr meri koi baat buri lagi ho to maaf krna sab mai chahta hu k Qu’ran ka rasta pharkro sab log thanks 🙂

  3. Zaakir sahab : Sub se pehle to humain behes ki adat nahi lekin ab chunke ap ne khud chera hai to jawab hum par farz banta hai. Guzarish ye hai keh sub se pehle to Apko Quran se mutaliq koi bhi baat na he karni chahiye or naa he apka us se koi waasta hai . Woh is waja se keh Shia hazraat k nazdeek Quran abhi tak pohancha he nahi or Khalifa-e-Ghaib yani Imam Mahdi (as) le kar ayenge. Lihaza Quran k hawalay se mutaliq ap ka jo kuch bhi kehna hai wo qabil e ghaur isliye nahi keh Musalman jiske pas Quran he mojood na ho ya jiska tahreef ka nazriya ho usko Quran se mutaliq bolne ka bhi haq nahi hota. Hai k nahi?

    2nd.Jahan tak Noha parhna ka sawal hai to Ap bilawaja apni Rafidi adat se majboor hain. Apki he kutub main Mojood hai keh MATAM HARAM HAI. baat khatam. Ap ko ye baat karne ki bajai TUhfa-e-Athna Ashariya parh he lena chahiye. Apke tamam khayalat ka RADD OR JAWAB us main mojood hai . Neez is pori Post main tamam Hawalay apki Kitabon k hain. Ap Taqqiya karte hove us par kuch Gulafshani nahi farmate lekin yahan aa kar taqrir zaror karte hain KION?

    Shukriya.

  4. Quran me Surah naddhariyyat perho Jaa ke Sab. Uss Mein pata chal jayega matam haram hai ya halal. Hazrat Ibrahim a.s ki biwi bibi Sara a.s me Kiya tha

  5. Mourning and hitting one self is the Sunnah of the Prophet (s)

    As evidence we shall cite the following works:
    Saheeh al Bukharee Volume 2 page 50
    Sunan al Nasai Volume 3 page 305
    Adhaan al Mufreed page 426
    Saheeh al Muslim Volume 1 page 291
    Musnad Abu Awana Volume 2 page 292

  6. her face when she was told that she would conceive a baby.

    “Then came forward his wife in grief, she smote her face and said (what! I) An old barren woman?”
    Quran 51:29
    Smoke means to hit.

  7. Zanjeer is wrong! But not matam.. Tell me about Awais karni when he broke his teeth? Hazrat yaqoob used to cry so much that he lost the vision of his eyes. Ayesha did matam on two different occasions, holy prophets (S) death and abubakrs death.
    Haha, Yazeed did not did this. This noha khawani is a traditional thing.
    And Yazeed did not used to play with Imams head. He only used to touch his lips with a stick infront of Hazrat Sakina AS and Hazrat Zainab AS.
    His wife said to not to do this because his wife was very pious and she was n Imam’s side.

    1. Breaking your teeth in exreem love is not at all mATAm. Does he every year do that?

      And rest of all what you write is nonsense and not worthy to even answer because of your stupidity

      And why are you talking about Yazid here? Yazeed was your Own Shia. What he did was totally wrong and we do not consider Yazeed laeen lanati worthy to even mention. Kindly put your ugly words for Wahhabis not Sunnis and grow up

  8. ALLAH PAK NE Farmya hai k jo apni janoo par zulam kartay hain mea unko na pasand farmata hoo aur aur baqi hazarat awais qarni ka keh rahay hain too wo to ashiq e rasool hain aur Mola Hussian A.s ne sajady mea sir diya hai app matam karty hoo kabi quran b parhty hoo aur namaz ka app sarkar ne bar bar kaha hai namaz kitni parhtay hoo maa baap mar jay too unka matam kyun nahi karty un se ishq muhabbat nahi hai

  9. Ye baat agar prove kerni he to suni tuni tum log darte kyon ho hamare samne a kar face to face baat karo tab hum sabit karen you bloody idiots suni jahanum me hum nahi tum log jao ge

  10. Hum or tum Ibne Saba ki yahudi olad se darenge? Jahanam main tum he jao gay don’t worry. Tumko Rafidi naam khud Ahlu Bait ne he diya hai. Tumko Muslim hone ka dawa hy jubke kehte ho keh Quran abhi tak tumhare pas aya he nahi. Ahlu Bayt ky nam par tumhary manhus shakal wale zakir tum jysy jahilon ko ubharte hyn lekin begherat kbhi ye q nhi bataty keh Kufa main unko bulane waly kon thy? Tum logon ky pas yahdiyon ky ibne saba ki thinking ky ilawa or hye hi kya?

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